In the meantime, while I realize many of my views lean toward conservative/reserved, that s not the

I was listening to FLY this morning and heard Brian and Chrissy talking about a listener who wanted scotland vacation packages to get married scotland vacation packages out at Liberty Ridge Farm in Rensselaer County. The venue has taken a pass on marrying the couple.
I just felt uncomfortable. scotland vacation packages Maybe I made a mistake in my initial scotland vacation packages response to them, she said when I reached her on her cell phone (I ve done stories out there with them in the past). I am willing to have a meeting. It is kind of against my religious views, but if they have an interest, they are more than welcome to come out and look at the property.
I am guessing and this is just an assumption that the formal complaint may have had something to do with her backing off a bit. And, well, I can t say I blame her. If the state was after me, I d probably ease off, too.
In the meantime, while I realize many of my views lean toward conservative/reserved, that s not the case with gay marriage. A same-sex couple can have as rich a relationship as a heterosexual couple, and I support the right for every free-thinking, of-age, unmarried adult to marry any free-thinking, scotland vacation packages of-age, unmarried adult (that should pretty much cover the issue of underage, polygamy and the like, right?)
That said, I m having a hard time deciding where I stand with Liberty Ridge s decision. From a business standpoint, it was poor. Really poor. Especially in a state as liberal as New York. And, on that same side of the argument, it reeks of discrimination. Gay marriage is legal in New York so saying you won t marry a gay couple seems, to me, the same as saying you won t marry a black couple. You re born gay just as you are born black.
If I worked in the wedding industry, every couple be it a bride and groom, groom and groom or bride and bride would have the same value as a customer. And, in 2012, I find it surprising business owners especially business owners in the Northeast don t have the same perspective.
On the other hand, this is a private business that, I guess, has a right to make decisions based on moral or religious beliefs. And, I know, if you do not support gay marriage, that opinion scotland vacation packages is 99 percent of the time rooted in moral or religious perspective.
kristi, you and i don t see eye to eye on everything. and i respect your opinion and feelings are different than mine and that we can have a civil discourse about most things. differences scotland vacation packages are what make the world go round.
if you were a part of the affected group, you would undoubtedly feel differently. if you couldn t marry your husband in the beautiful ceremony you did because someone felt it was immoral. despite the fact that it was legal, you would probably be a little more angry. just because you are not a protester and have never been, does not mean you can t take a stand against an illegal and discriminatory policy. even if that stand is only speaking scotland vacation packages with your wallet the one time a year you go there, it does actually mean something.
The owner of LR farm is no different than the bartender in the Star Wars cantina saying we don t serve their kind here .. However, unlike young Luke who caves and leaves his friends outside, we stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters and will join them in patronizing scotland vacation packages businesses that do not hold such discriminatory scotland vacation packages views and practices. Our disappointment in your actions will be demonstrated through patronizing scotland vacation packages business who are not homophobs.
Kristi .I have a question scotland vacation packages here How was the venue told this is a gay wedding? scotland vacation packages Did the couple volunteer this info or did the venue ask directly if this was a gay wedding? Usually when you call an establishment to book an event your asking about available dates and prices. Just curious on how this came about.
Think of some things that you morally, ethically scotland vacation packages or religously DON T agree with (i.e witchcraft, swingers parties, gun shows, whatever scotland vacation packages it might be .). Are you seriously telling scotland vacation packages us that if you have a strong personal conviction that these LEAGAL activities are wrong, scotland vacation packages you should be forced to host one in your place of business as to not discriminate??
I feel as a business owner and as a gay married man, I too have to separate my personal feelings and beliefs along with my business ethics. scotland vacation packages The truth is sexual orientation is not a protected class yet. It is when it come to some work places but on state and federal level the fight is still going on. Now what the owners did is still discrimination ( weather you hide behind Jesus or not). And no matter how you look at it, it s still morally and ethically wrong. Not to mention horrible business practice. When my husband and I were looking scotland vacation packages for the things we needed for own day. You can not image the stress scotland vacation packages and uncomfortable feelings we had to deal with when were basically coming out all over again to complete strangers, and not knowing what they would say. It was like being in high school all over again. More and more people need to realize that we do not choose gay, we choose to be out and proud. To stand up for our rights scotland vacation packages as basic human beings. Looking back at all the teaching I had about the catholic faith and Jesus, is that Jesus was a liberal. He would never make someone feel secluded. He loved the poor, sick and the whore. So I ask the owners, What Would Jesus Do?
Just as the gay community seeks acceptance for their beliefs, it would be hypocritical of them not to accept a small businesses decision based on their own beliefs as well. Whether born a certain way or not- discrimination can be against sex and religion too. There are always 2 sides to a story. Most of you probably scotland vacation packages didn t even read the original poster from the person who posted on the Facebook wall. They pointed out and bashed Christians IN GENERAL! No one like that will ever gain respect!
I am the co-owner scotland vacation packages of the Olde Tater Barn located in beautiful Schoharie County. We would like to offer Melissa Erwin and Jennie Mcarthy a discount to be determined scotland vacation packages later for an on-site wedding ceremony and reception at the Olde Tater Barn in 2013.
We welcome and support all that want to get married. We have had 16 weddings this year and have 12 booked for next year. This year we had 2 gay wedding ceremonies and receptions. Last year we had a gay wedding ceremony. Co-owner, Rich Benninger, can perform the wedding ceremony.
On Oct 7, we hosted my daughter, Meagan and Uzay s wedding. We had chiffon drapery and chandeliers in the barn. We work with our wedding couple to create the design they desire to make their wedding day one of the best days of their lives.
First let me state- I support gay marriage and was pleased when NYS passed legislation allowing same sex marriages to take place. That being said, I also support Liberty Ridge Farm in their decision to refuse services to a gay couple. It is their right to stand by their beliefs and I give them credit for not caving to public criticism. While those of us who do support gay marriage may not agree or approve of their decision, it s their decision to make. Why are we so quick to judge someone who thinks differently than us and condemn them for it? I don t think I have every been to Liberty Ridge Farms but won t stay away based on their decision.
While we are born with sexual response, there is no evidence that humans are born wanting or needing scotland vacation packages sexual satisfaction of a particular nature: with a particular partner of a certain sex, or of a certain age, or with other bodies regardless of sex, or by oneself, or with inanimate objects. Neither is there any evidence that humans are born with a specific aversion to engaging in sexual activity with the opposite sex, or to sex of any variety.
The born that way premise has entered into the consciousness of Western culture through such discredited experts as Kinsey, and has been nurtured by creative manipulation of our emotions, bypassing reason and science. Stop and think about how bizarre it is that we now have great, government sponsored parades and events to provide an outlet for expressing pride in the way we fulfill our sexual desires. Where s the science? Where s the reason? These festivals celebrate and elicit primal urges to which we increasingly subject our rational minds.
We were all born to be wild but we are here now in this particular society with this level of civilization because most of our ancestors did not stay that way regardless of their fondness or disdain for certain kinds of sexual behavior. Our lawmakers and large numbers of vulnerable citizens are becoming susceptible to the born-that-way canard (as well as to cash contributions and threats of retaliation). Human emotion overcomes reason after all.